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srm 8.2 (appliance) and vcenter 6.7u2a (appliance) can't connect with powercli 11.2 from windows

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from a windows server (2012r2) in the same env. as both vcenter and srm I have connected to vcenter with powercli (no issues there)

but when i try connect-srmserver, i get errors, i have tried various combinations of the command with srm server IP and usernames and passwords trying to follow the command reference here Online Documentation - Cmdlet Reference - VMware {code}  and 11.2 users guide https://vdc-download.vmware.com/vmwb-repository/dcr-public/72479a44-60ed-4b00-839a-0e442d85a863/6a9f9b49-367a-4ece-b543-… .
i have an older env. (vcenter and srm 6.5 on windows and this works without issues, so i have an idea of how the commands work, the end goal is to load up the api)

 

 

PS C:\> Connect-SrmServer

Connect-SrmServer : 6/10/2019 4:53:27 PM        Connect-SrmServer               Unable to connect to the remote server

At line:1 char:1

+ Connect-SrmServer

+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    + CategoryInfo          : NotSpecified: (:) [Connect-SrmServer], VimException

    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : ConnectServer_UnhandledException,VMware.VimAutomation.Srm.Commands.Commands.ConnectSrmSe

   rver


or if i do

 

PS C:\> Connect-SrmServer -srmserver <IP or fqdn>
when i do this i get a prompt for creds (i enter my creds that i use for vcenter {windows domain creds})

and i get this

Connect-SrmServer : Unable to connect to the remote server

At line:1 char:1

+ Connect-SrmServer -srmserveraddress 10.193.198.142

+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    + CategoryInfo          : NotSpecified: (:) [Connect-SrmServer], VimException

    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : VMware.VimAutomation.Sdk.Types.V1.ErrorHandling.VimException.VimException,VMware.VimAuto

   mation.Srm.Commands.Commands.ConnectSrmServer

 

 

there is no firewall between windows or the 2 appliances


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